Precision HD Camera - long cable runs

[Glen Sykes]

Hi All,

Does anyone have any technical information about the Tandberg Precision HD camera extension cable kit (Tandberg part number 1161653)? Such as where does the PSU go? Do the repeaters use HDMI or DVI-D interfaces?

Finally is there a readily available alternative?

Cheers,

Glen

[Glen Sykes]

The question behind all this is if I buy a T6000 integrator system (part number 115920), and a Tandberg Video Switch with HD Camera bundle (Part number 116720), with the main camera 5 metres away from the video switch, and the secondary camera around 20 metres away, with all the cables and extension kits that come with both systems, will I be able to do this, or will I need a different extension kit?

Basically, is the camera cable extension kit only suitable for the proprietary cable to Dataport 2 on the codec, or can it be used on the HDMI to DVI-I cable run between the Camera and the TVS?

[cedi]

Hi.

We also recently bought and installed the 6000 integrator package (incl. PHD), TVS with additional PHD. So in total, codec, TVS and 2 PHD cameras.

In the package you will get the ca. 20m cable extension (3 segments of ca. 6,5m)... but this cables can be used for connecting TVS to the codec. PHD connects to TVS with DVI - HDMI cable.
(you could also use this extension kit if connecting only one PHD to the codec. But since you use TVS, the extension kit is only suitable for connecting codec and TVS.)

If one PHD camera is 20 meters away... you'll need DVI - HDMI cable length of 20m. The camera is connected to the TVS... so you might be forced to install the TVS away from the codec to avoid such long DVI - HDMI cable.
In our case we used 15m long DVI - HDMI cable for the secondary PHD. This cable gets pretty expensive with length.

You'll also additionaly need (not in the package!) the daisy-chain control cable from first PHD to second PHD. I believe you can produce it yourself. We used regular UTP CATx cable. One side has RJ-45 connector... other side has sligthly smaller (not RJ-45). Only you need to connect wires properly. I believe there must be some manual available describing the wires. (we bought the 20m daisy chain extension cable... but then used our own UTP).

You definetly need to buy few more things (DVI - HDMI, daisy-chain cable).

The PSU (Power supply unit) connetcs directly to each PHD camera connected to TVS. TVS does not provide any power supply to the camera.
PHD also needs its own power supply (PSU) in case it is connected directly to codec (T6000, T3000, Edge) via extension cable segment (no TVS in last case).

Repeaters do not use the DVI or HDMI connectors. They have most probably RJ-45 (or something very similar) male connector at one end and female on the other.
I'm not familiar of any alternative. But if there is one, we're interested too. :)

I hope this helps a bit.

BR,
Cedi

[Glen Sykes]

Hi Cedi,

You've confirmed my suspicion, which is if I have a TVS housed in a central rack, if I want to place a Precision HD say 20metres away, I'm looking at using something that Tandberg don't supply as standard, i.e. an HDMI extension kit.

I've seen some neat HDMI to Cat5 extenders (Extron and Kramer do these), but I don't know what the performance is like.

Has anyone else done anything like this?

Cheers,

Glen

[Tallman2]

Hey Glen
I come from the world of A / V intergration and would recommend using Extron devices over Kramer. They will be more expensive but well worth it!

[Glen Sykes]

Thanks for the heads up Tallman. Any particular reason?

[Tallman2]

Yes.. I have used both products for other applications and Extron has always out performed Kramer, I have always noticed that Video sources always looks better from Extron products, and I never had issues with dependability from Extron.