View Full Version : How many sites can Polycom RMX1000 support?
vimascom
11-06-2008, 07:09 AM
Dear Everybody,
I've already read RMX1000 datasheet and RMX1000 user-guide, I realize any something as follows then:
1. In the RMX1000 datasheet: ...up to 20 media resources (H.323)...
2. In the RMX1000 user-guide: ...supports a maximum of 32 ongoing conferences...
:confused:What is right? And, how many sites can Polycom RMX1000 support?
keikei_cn
11-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Dear Everybody,
I've already read RMX1000 datasheet and RMX1000 user-guide, I realize any something as follows then:
1. In the RMX1000 datasheet: ...up to 20 media resources (H.323)...
2. In the RMX1000 user-guide: ...supports a maximum of 32 ongoing conferences...
:confused:What is right? And, how many sites can Polycom RMX1000 support?
all is right , rmx 1000 support 20 audio+20 video ,so it conf number need more than 20
vimascom
11-07-2008, 01:01 AM
all is right , rmx 1000 support 20 audio+20 video ,so it conf number need more than 20
Please explain details of it for me.
vimascom
11-07-2008, 02:45 AM
I realized those RMX1000 can cascading. If so, can we expand the system conferencing more than 20 sites?:happy:
keikei_cn
11-07-2008, 07:19 AM
Please explain details of it for me.
20 audio+20video ,it mean if you have 20 video endpoint ,they all can get the video and audio but the 21th endpoint call rmx 1000,this ep can not get the video but can hear the audio
vimascom
11-07-2008, 10:23 PM
20 audio+20video ,it mean if you have 20 video endpoint ,they all can get the video and audio but the 21th endpoint call rmx 1000,this ep can not get the video but can hear the audio
Thank you very much. I understanded.:happy:
vimascom
11-07-2008, 10:25 PM
If I use the cacading mode, can those RMX1000 support more than 20 video sites?
keikei_cn
11-08-2008, 06:27 AM
If I use the cacading mode, can those RMX1000 support more than 20 video sites?
cacading mode can not add the max number of single rmx 1000.
vimascom
11-14-2008, 08:18 PM
cacading mode can not add the max number of single rmx 1000.
Where time to use the cacscading mode with those RMX1000?
Please explain for me.
Joe Vallender
11-17-2008, 09:19 AM
You can use the cascade mode to cascade conferences on different RMX's. This will allow you to have the number of sites participating in the conference exceed one RMX's capacity.
vimascom
11-19-2008, 08:45 PM
You can use the cascade mode to cascade conferences on different RMX's. This will allow you to have the number of sites participating in the conference exceed one RMX's capacity.
How maximum video sites can this system conferencing support if I used two RMX1000 in cacading mode?:surprised
Thanks.
keikei_cn
11-20-2008, 10:18 PM
How maximum video sites can this system conferencing support if I used two RMX1000 in cacading mode?:surprised
Thanks.
i do not think you need use cacading function, it usually happen in Chinese,the maximum video sites is not fixed number,it will be change base cacading conference number
vimascom
11-21-2008, 09:00 PM
i do not think you need use cacading function, it usually happen in Chinese,the maximum video sites is not fixed number,it will be change base cacading conference number
Thank keikei_cn,
Yes. But I need to know that how many video conf sites can I use at the same time so, with two RMX1000 in cascading mode?;)
keikei_cn
11-23-2008, 08:50 PM
Thank keikei_cn,
Yes. But I need to know that how many video conf sites can I use at the same time so, with two RMX1000 in cascading mode?;)
i think you need learn the knowledge about video conference topology first,the cascading is complicated apply,the max number is not fixed ,if you cascading conference number is too many, the max participate number of rmx 1000 will decrease,
BasicITOne
12-25-2008, 05:32 PM
Dear Everybody,
I've already read RMX1000 datasheet and RMX1000 user-guide, I realize any something as follows then:
1. In the RMX1000 datasheet: ...up to 20 media resources (H.323)...
2. In the RMX1000 user-guide: ...supports a maximum of 32 ongoing conferences...
:confused:What is right? And, how many sites can Polycom RMX1000 support?
The complexity of it all - How many sites can an RMX handle in one conference? It all depends how many HD, how many SD and at what speeds are they connecting. O yea encryption. yes I'm confused also:confused:
With Codian
how many sites at HD - 40
how many sites at SD - 40
how many sites at 384Kbps - 40
how many sites at a mix of 256/384/512/768/1MB - 40.
how many OCS clients - 40
and no limit on # of conferences
No confusion
BasicITOne
12-25-2008, 05:40 PM
Thank keikei_cn,
Yes. But I need to know that how many video conf sites can I use at the same time so, with two RMX1000 in cascading mode?;)
If you have ever had to run multiple simultaneous conferences with even one in a cascade then you would not want to create a situation where this is the normal mode of operation. Can you do it? yes. Do you want to do it? NO. Unless the MCU is designed to do it and a common management platform is availible to monitor all sites and MCU's.
I cascade from geographical site to geographical site because each site has a seperate conference times and joins main conference at different times and drops off to continue internal discussions.
keikei_cn
12-26-2008, 09:05 PM
If you have ever had to run multiple simultaneous conferences with even one in a cascade then you would not want to create a situation where this is the normal mode of operation. Can you do it? yes. Do you want to do it? NO. Unless the MCU is designed to do it and a common management platform is availible to monitor all sites and MCU's.
I cascade from geographical site to geographical site because each site has a seperate conference times and joins main conference at different times and drops off to continue internal discussions.
i do not think so ,if cascading is unpractical.the Chinese customer will crazy,they usually have more than 5 mcu ,more than 100 endpoint ,and all endpoint will in one conference.if not use cascading ,how to design the network?
keikei_cn
12-26-2008, 09:10 PM
The complexity of it all - How many sites can an RMX handle in one conference? It all depends how many HD, how many SD and at what speeds are they connecting. O yea encryption. yes I'm confused also:confused:
With Codian
how many sites at HD - 40
how many sites at SD - 40
how many sites at 384Kbps - 40
how many sites at a mix of 256/384/512/768/1MB - 40.
how many OCS clients - 40
and no limit on # of conferences
No confusion
do you use rmx 1000?if not ,please shut up
BasicITOne
12-30-2008, 09:18 AM
do you use rmx 1000?if not ,please shut up
Wow your command of language is exceptional. I don't quite understand your position here, you ask a question get answers and then want people to that provide input to shut up.
I understand this may not be your first language. So maybe you meant to say something else – Like:
“I only want answers that fit my limited scope of understanding, so please keep answers simple, and do not give alternative views that show a different and more efficient method of operation for my video network. Thank you very much”
BE PROFESSIONAL OR TAKE YOUR OWN SIMPLISTIC AND CHILDISH ADVICE!!!!
I have demo'ed the RMX but decided it didn't meet my requirements. Too many variables on port count SD and HD.
Cascading should only be used when required but you should not build your solution to included it if possible. If you can't then look to MCU's with max port count and that all ports on all MCUs can be managed as one unit or from one management platform.
Having to have port count change depending on who connects when is not an option for large enterprises with 100's of systems and users that will connect not only scheduled but ad-hoc conferences also.
keikei_cn
12-30-2008, 10:50 PM
Wow your command of language is exceptional. I don't quite understand your position here, you ask a question get answers and then want people to that provide input to shut up.
I understand this may not be your first language. So maybe you meant to say something else – Like:
“I only want answers that fit my limited scope of understanding, so please keep answers simple, and do not give alternative views that show a different and more efficient method of operation for my video network. Thank you very much”
BE PROFESSIONAL OR TAKE YOUR OWN SIMPLISTIC AND CHILDISH ADVICE!!!!
I have demo'ed the RMX but decided it didn't meet my requirements. Too many variables on port count SD and HD.
Cascading should only be used when required but you should not build your solution to included it if possible. If you can't then look to MCU's with max port count and that all ports on all MCUs can be managed as one unit or from one management platform.
Having to have port count change depending on who connects when is not an option for large enterprises with 100's of systems and users that will connect not only scheduled but ad-hoc conferences also.
first ,sorry ,my english is not good,but i do not want to retract my word
do you know that ,if you encode a 720 P video ,the hardware resource can encode how many 4cif? at least 2 4cif ,so if all mcu like codian 4500,yes it is easy to you ,but do you know enterprise waste how many money?the endpoint can send 4cif when 256K.but the 720p need at least 896,maybe you network is good ,bandwidth is big enough,but how many people have enough bandwidth to support 720? do you think the man no enough bandwidth need pay the money for the function that they can not use?maybe you like waste money,but i do not think you boss like it,if you not research the market,please shut up.
about cascading ,i do not think you have power to say something,do you research the Chinese market?if not ,please shut up,i can tell you at least 20 project use it ,and it is only way to resolve they requirement,you can think it is not good idea,but please remember it is very important function in Asia country,you do not know that people,that custom ,you can not understand cascading.
i do not want to humiliate you,but please remember,no research,please say nothing
BasicITOne
01-01-2009, 04:47 PM
first ,sorry ,my english is not good,but i do not want to retract my word
do you know that ,if you encode a 720 P video ,the hardware resource can encode how many 4cif? at least 2 4cif ,so if all mcu like codian 4500,yes it is easy to you ,but do you know enterprise waste how many money?the endpoint can send 4cif when 256K.but the 720p need at least 896,maybe you network is good ,bandwidth is big enough,but how many people have enough bandwidth to support 720? do you think the man no enough bandwidth need pay the money for the function that they can not use?maybe you like waste money,but i do not think you boss like it,if you not research the market,please shut up.
about cascading ,i do not think you have power to say something,do you research the Chinese market?if not ,please shut up,i can tell you at least 20 project use it ,and it is only way to resolve they requirement,you can think it is not good idea,but please remember it is very important function in Asia country,you do not know that people,that custom ,you can not understand cascading.
i do not want to humiliate you,but please remember,no research,please say nothing
You sir or madam are unprofessional and not to be listened to.
I use cascading all the time hosting conferences on many different non interoperable platforms - OCS, Adobe Connect, CallManager and H323. Cascading in not a preferable solution - BUT in some cases can't be avoided. My point is don't design your network to use cascading if you are in a position to buy a MCU that can support all required endpoints in one conference on one MCU. To avoid cascading I had my customer rework his meeting schedule that make the meeting more efficient and uses participants time more effectively. Site join when there area of concern is being discussed and use streaming technology when only passively listening. The business requirements have changed, more folks are purchasing HD endpoints and more bandwidth and more endpoint/sites need to join at one time - hence the requirement for a larger capacity MCU to avoid cascading as much as possible.
If you don't know don't assume what I do - My point remains solid and valid - IF YOU CAN AVOID CASCADING THEN DO SO IF YOU CAN’T, THEN ENSURE YOU MANAGE IT APPROPRIATELY. ONE METHOD IS TO AVOID MCU's THAT REQUIRE REPROVISIONING BASED ON SPEED, HD/SD, ENCRYPTION, and other factors.
Your lack of English is not your weakness - understanding of concepts is. Cascading is not isolated to the Asian market video conferencing is global and the problems and possible solutions are universal - hence this global forum.
Please if even had even a small desire to "humiliate me" then your heart and mind are in the wrong place. 20 years computing, 15 years networking, VoIP 10 Years, VTC for 8 years, BSCS, Graduate Certificate in Information Technology, CVE, MCSE, CCNP, Cisco Certified Instructor Voice, and many more. Please don't try.
keikei_cn
01-02-2009, 02:00 AM
You sir or madam are unprofessional and not to be listened to.
I use cascading all the time hosting conferences on many different non interoperable platforms - OCS, Adobe Connect, CallManager and H323. Cascading in not a preferable solution - BUT in some cases can't be avoided. My point is don't design your network to use cascading if you are in a position to buy a MCU that can support all required endpoints in one conference on one MCU. To avoid cascading I had my customer rework his meeting schedule that make the meeting more efficient and uses participants time more effectively. Site join when there area of concern is being discussed and use streaming technology when only passively listening. The business requirements have changed, more folks are purchasing HD endpoints and more bandwidth and more endpoint/sites need to join at one time - hence the requirement for a larger capacity MCU to avoid cascading as much as possible.
If you don't know don't assume what I do - My point remains solid and valid - IF YOU CAN AVOID CASCADING THEN DO SO IF YOU CAN’T, THEN ENSURE YOU MANAGE IT APPROPRIATELY. ONE METHOD IS TO AVOID MCU's THAT REQUIRE REPROVISIONING BASED ON SPEED, HD/SD, ENCRYPTION, and other factors.
Your lack of English is not your weakness - understanding of concepts is. Cascading is not isolated to the Asian market video conferencing is global and the problems and possible solutions are universal - hence this global forum.
Please if even had even a small desire to "humiliate me" then your heart and mind are in the wrong place. 20 years computing, 15 years networking, VoIP 10 Years, VTC for 8 years, BSCS, Graduate Certificate in Information Technology, CVE, MCSE, CCNP, Cisco Certified Instructor Voice, and many more. Please don't try.
i do not think the Certified is very important,in our country,many student get Cisco and Microsoft Certified when them in university,but if you want to know,i can tell you ,I got it at 2001,and i got CCIE at2004, and now ,i am R&D engineer,my job is research different Vidoe manufacturer's product .who is shallow unprofessional person?
i know you english is very well ,so you can understand that my point is follow,you can find then in prevenient post " the cascading is very important function ,it usually happen in Chinese and Asian market ,the cascading can resolve the bandwidth problem ,and use cascading can save the cost than increase bandwidth and increase mcu port" do you think my point is wrong?
btW:do not use different MCU to do cascading ,it is general knowledge in Asian,i often help my consumer to run a cascading conf ,the video ,audio ,h.239 all is fine ,if you use different MCU to do cascading ,i only say"oh my god"
if you use full transcoding mcu like codian 4200/4500 ,polycom rmx 1000.radvision ,the conf bandwidth,protocol,is not important
and ,do you know,POLYCOM's cma will support cascading manger
you say me is a shallow unprofessional person.ok. please tell me what is different that the polycom with tandberg when they send the h.239? and you like codian ,please tell me which dsp does codian use ?how many dsp can encode a 4cif,how many dsp can encode a 720
vBulletin® v3.7.2, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.